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This forgiveness BS.

Sometimes...that's what I think, I dislike forgiveness because it is challenging. Should I forgive someone who is a compulsive liar and a deceitful person?

It's Sunday, so that means, Sunday is Church. In the Bible, Jesus Christ was flesh and blood, walking on Earth; he was born like a human and was the most humble person ever. He could forgive because he had the power to change people. Those who changed are the ones who ask for it and bowed to Jesus.

But...I am not Jesus.

Being less angry would make me healthy, but I hate it when I'm seen as a bad person because I'm distrustful.

I also dislike it when you betray trust. What should I do?

One thing is needed to change your character is dedication. Those men and woman who were called sinners in the Bible, they dedicated themselves to one person.

Things may be...more "difficult" now. Or maybe less mystical, but I yet a reason to trust this one person. Now after many years of tension.

Date: 2012-10-01 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alice-the-raven.livejournal.com
I can empathize with your situation. I've had a couple of significant issues with someone I felt betrayed my trust. I don't always forgive someone either. If someone shows some sense of being sorry and trying to make up for it, I can usually forgive. If someone goes on being a snot I don't forgive. Unfortunately, it usually weighs more on me than it does on them because it does eat at me. The government is also a wonderful place to work if someone is a rotten apple as they will almost always be rewarded and promoted so it eats at me even more to see them benefit from their evil. I usually tend to try and undermine them by quietly spreading the truth about their behavior to everyone. You're right, it is a difficult thing.

Date: 2012-10-04 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doggiedynasty.livejournal.com
Another problem is that the lack of forgiveness becomes your character. How can you be a good friend or family member? Or person for that matter?

Date: 2012-10-01 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alice-the-raven.livejournal.com
Oh, and love your icon! Soooo kawaii!

Date: 2012-10-01 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doggiedynasty.livejournal.com
Thank you. It's a dog in a typical ninja cowl ^^;

Date: 2012-10-01 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkadelos.livejournal.com
There is a difference between forgiveness and welcoming a person into your life. By this, I mean that you can forgive a person and continue to ban a person in your life. Even though Jesus begged His Father to forgive the people who nailed Him onto the cross, many of them suffered the damnation and alienation of Hell simply because they refused to accept Him. If those people who cruxified Him had changed their ways and repented, then they would have entered Heaven even after the cruxifying.

And speaking from personal experience, sometimes it is better to walk away from a bad relationship when bad feelings continue to exist for time to calm us down and heal the wounds. I needed to walk away from a family member for years because of numerous disappointments. If this person who hurt you so much demands on being in your life, then that person is not being understanding or sympathetic to you.

Forgiveness means not holding a grudge. So, you can forgive someone without wanting to be around that individual. And you are a good person for not wanting to associate with someone who has behaved badly and who has yet to change.

Date: 2012-10-04 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doggiedynasty.livejournal.com
My favorite Bible Lady!

...I don't like this hatred/dislike that I have, but I can't get myself to like someone who insulted what I really care about time and time again. I might be too hard on myself...

What is repenting anyways? When one of my uncles died last year, I asked my father the same thing. Another uncle is quite sick and he thought he had little time (but it doesn't look like it). That guy, well...a bad apple occasionally (and a cheater). The deceased uncle did binge, smoked, etc. He was handicapped for those reasons. It's like repenting mostly matters when you're near the end, but to me, it doesn't seem genuine. You want to now make up the things you've done when you're near the dead end?

Just say "repent" and you're healed?

Date: 2012-10-04 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkadelos.livejournal.com
Repentence is when someone truly and deeply regrets wrong actions, so that person changes and becomes a different person through genuine repentence. If you regret something, then you obviously don't want to do it again. Just saying "I'm sorry" is not enough. If there is no change, then there is no genuine repentence. In my case, I was sorry for my grudge against a certain person who hurt me so much, but I was not sorry for how I felt about that person, and my bad feelings led to me acting out the grudge. Although I apologized, I did not have genuine repentence.

Forgiveness means not holding a grudge, but if someone refuses to repent, then you are perfectly justified in not being around someone who has mistreated you.

More recently, a co-worker deeply offended me and had insulted me earlier. This was so bad that I went to one of personnel and asked never to work next to her again. Now, I don't hold a grudge against her. I never sit around dwelling about how much she insulted me and how angry I am. I'm not angry at all. However, until she changes/repents her ways, I refuse to work next to her because I never want to be insulted again.

Date: 2012-10-09 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doggiedynasty.livejournal.com
A repented people seems hard to come by then.

And still being angry with a person, or refusing to trust a people, still feels like "hold a grudge".

Tch, sometimes I dislike how religion influences us so much when we can't completely follow it. Again, I'm not Jesus. he can afford to be perfect because of his powers. He lets people follow him because of his abilities.

...kinda makes me look arrogant.
Edited Date: 2012-10-09 04:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-10 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkadelos.livejournal.com
Most religions today do not discuss what the religion actually means. And this includes Christianity.

Date: 2012-10-10 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doggiedynasty.livejournal.com
Stupid typos. I meant "makes him look", and "person" instead of "people". Was I half-asleep!?

Why do you follow religion?!

Date: 2012-10-11 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkadelos.livejournal.com
Well, for me, it just makes sense. Religion explains the how and why questions that science cannot. Religion brings order and organization, an objective moral code. Religion also must have a strong element of truth to it.

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